National Journal, first published: 02/05/2009

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

A young and brilliant historian

Hitler's War

The Leuchter Report

Irving vs Lipstadt

Jail in Austria

Irving's trip to Poland

My questions to Irving and his reply

The missing answer on question four

 David Irving’s evidence for the mass murder

Irving's death toll

The absurdities do not end

Part 5

Part 6

Part 7

Part 8

The case of the missing murder weapon

The diesel gas chamber story

The evolution of the extermination legend

The results of the excavations at Treblinka (1945)

The results of the archeological drillings at Belzec (1997-1999)

Sobibor or the scientific report that never was

Two important documents Irving deliberately ignores

The three Reinhardt camps were transit camps

Once a "Holocaust denier", always a "Holocaust denier"!

A warning to David Irving

An advice to David Irving

Part 9 - Sources

Jürgen Graf , April 2009

David Irving and the "Aktion Reinhardt Camps"

My questions to David Irving and his reply

In March 2009, I learned that David Irving had given all kind of advice to a fellow "Holocaust denier," Bishop Richard Williamson, and I received a message from an irate French lady who castigated Irving’s statements about Treblinka. On 2 April, I sent Irving a mail, asking him the following four questions:

- Did he believe that a mass murder of Jews had taken place at   Treblinka, Sobibor and Belzec?
- If he believed that such a mass murder had indeed been committed, what was his evidence?
- In this case, how was the massacre carried out?
- Had he, David Irving, read Carlo Mattogno’s book about Belzec and the book Treblinka: Extermination camp or transit camp?[12], written by Carlo Mattogno and me?

On the very same day, I received the following reply from David Irving:

"1. Ich bin der Auffassung, dass in besagten drei Lagern Massenvernichtungen stattgefunden haben ("durch Gas" lässt sich nicht beweisen, ist ja sehr umstritten).

2. Beweismaterial:
- Bekannter Briefwechsel Wolff/Ganzenmüller betr. Malkinia/Treblinka.
-    Himmlers Anordnung, in Treblinka nichts auffindbar zurückzulassen, anschliessend einen Bauernhof darüber entstehen zu lassen [...].
-     Persönliche Befragung zweier Zeugen... betr. Belzec, falls Echtheit nachweisbar.
- Höfle-Decode vom Januar 1943 und in Zusammenhang damit der Korherr-Bericht.

3. Für das Jahr 1942: Das Höfle-Dokument spricht von 1'274’166.
Für 1942 und 1943 haben wir aus Himmler-Akten die Beuteziffer Reinhardt – Schmuck, Uhren, Münzen. Daraus lässt sich ungefähr eine Ziffer für das Ergebnis für 1943 zusammenreimen bzw. hochrechnen, und zwar mehr als 1 Million – Himmler spricht dem Mufti gegenüber von „3 Millionen".

[1. In my opinion, a mass extermination took place in the aforementioned three camps (it cannot be proved that it was carried out by means of gas; as you know, this is highly controversial).

2. Evidence:
- The well-known correspondence between Wolff and Ganzenmüller concerning Malkinia/Treblinka.
-   Himmler’s order not to leave any traces at Treblinka and later to build a farmhouse there.
-   Personal interrogation of two witnesses… about Belzec, if the authenticity [of their statements] can be proved.
-  The decoded Höfle radio message from January 1943 and in this connection the Korherr report.

3. For 1942: The Höfle document mentions a figure of 1’274’166. For 1942 and 1943, Himmler’s documents reveal the extent of the Reinhardt loot – jewels, watches, coins. Based on this information, it is possible to guess or to calculate an approximate figure for 1943, to wit more than one million. To the Mufti Himmler speaks of "three million".]

The case of the missing answer to the forth question

While David Irving gave clear anwers to my first three questions, he did not care to answer the forth one: Had he read Treblinka – Extermination Camp or Transit Camp?, written by Carlo Mattogno and me, and Mattogno’s book about Belzec? At the time of Irving’s journey to Poland, both books had been online for more than three years, and the British historian, who is highly computer-literate, could easily have convinced himself of their value. The bibliography of Treblinka contains over 200 titles, about two dozens of them in Polish. As many of these Polish sources are of vital importance, one merit of our book is to make them accessible to researchers who, like Irving, do not understand the Polish tongue. Furthermore, Treblinka contains numerous references to documents from Russian archives which were never before published in any Western language.

While Belzec is much shorter than Treblinka, its bibliography still comprises 80 titles, 18 of them in the Polish language. The most important chapter is the third one, where Mattogno analyses the results of the forensic drillings and excavations which were performed on the territory of the former camp in the late 1990s.

If David Irving did not consider it necessary to read these two books, this shows he is not in the least interested in what really happened at Treblinka and Belzec. Of course, it is quite possible that he has indeed read them, but is reluctant to admit this, because otherwise he would be forced to respond to the revisionist arguments, especially the technical ones. As a matter of fact, as soon as one approaches the official version of the Reinhardt camps from the technical angle, the whole monstrous edifice of lies immediately collapses like a house of cards.